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and i want to talk to you about the op-ed that wayne lapierre. where he lays out his case for owning a gun, his reasons why. i want you to take a listen to joe read that piece. >> if the country is broke, there likely won't be enough money to pay for police protection and the american people know it. hurricanes, tornadoes, riots, terrorists, gangs, lone criminals, these are the perils we are sure to face, not just maybe. >> so joe went on to say this op-ed was laced with racist undertones and you had taken a mom who lost her son to the state of the union address as your plus one. how do you think your republican colleagues can stand behind the voice of the nra continually when they seem to be on the fringe of the argument and the debate itself? >> well, joe scarborough had it exactly right this morning. what the nra is doing is once again engaging in the scare tactics and trying to avoid focusing on the actual proposals that we've put before the congress. i took carol price to the state of the union. she lost her son in a tragic accidental gun sh
and i want to talk to you about the op-ed that wayne lapierre. where he lays out his case for owning a gun, his reasons why. i want you to take a listen to joe read that piece. >> if the country is broke, there likely won't be enough money to pay for police protection and the american people know it. hurricanes, tornadoes, riots, terrorists, gangs, lone criminals, these are the perils we are sure to face, not just maybe. >> so joe went on to say this op-ed was laced with racist...
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and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it. don't hurt our party anymore. let wayne lapierre go wherever he wants to go. he's going to destroy the party. we're going to talk about the crazy op-ed has horrible for our party's image, horrible for the conservative movement's image, goes against everything ronald reagan stood for. we'll talk about that in a minute. first, breaking news. this is bizarre. the feel-good story of the olympic games involved in possibly murder. >> this was a total jaw-dropper this morning. oscar pistorius, for those people who don't know, is a south african runn
and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it....
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this is wayne lapierre's america. and pretty much it does make sense because wayne lapierre and the nra, they're not lobbying for the rights for responsible gun owners the way they claim they are. wayne lapierre and the nra, they are bought and they are paid for, my friends. they are pushing a product. they are selling guns. here's the real america. 92% of americans support universal background checks. including 91% of americans in a household with a gun. you see, most supporters of the second amendment are supporters of common sense reform, but wayne lapierre, he won't tell you that. background checks are bad for business. here's the real america. 52% of americans in a household with a firearm support a ban on assault weapons. and that number's growing. this is not wayne lapierre's america. but 62% of americans in a household with a gun still think the national rifle association better reflects their views on firearms. my fellow americans, my fellow gun owners, i think we kind of need to wake up on this deal, you kno
this is wayne lapierre's america. and pretty much it does make sense because wayne lapierre and the nra, they're not lobbying for the rights for responsible gun owners the way they claim they are. wayne lapierre and the nra, they are bought and they are paid for, my friends. they are pushing a product. they are selling guns. here's the real america. 92% of americans support universal background checks. including 91% of americans in a household with a gun. you see, most supporters of the second...
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this is why wayne lapierre is just wrong. senator durbin had a hearing on the second amendment this week and he made or one of his witnesses made the point when you talk about cracking down on purchasers, that's a document issue. this is not about the second amendment, not taking away anyone's guns. it's just if you sign a document saying i'm the purchaser of the gun, it's just like any document you sign for a loan. if you are offense or straw purchaser, if you lie or a criminal, you're going to face a penalty. he's wrong. it's not always about second amendment. there's nothing obama has said that would make you think you're going to lose a gun. >> in that room there are people nodding their head yes. what can be said at this point to persuade those folks this is not a secret agenda or what wayne lapierre referred to as deception or manipulation? >> to be honest, i'm not sure blah can be said. the premise of his argument is false. if there's been a decade-long war perpetrated against the second amendment, i must have been sle
this is why wayne lapierre is just wrong. senator durbin had a hearing on the second amendment this week and he made or one of his witnesses made the point when you talk about cracking down on purchasers, that's a document issue. this is not about the second amendment, not taking away anyone's guns. it's just if you sign a document saying i'm the purchaser of the gun, it's just like any document you sign for a loan. if you are offense or straw purchaser, if you lie or a criminal, you're going...
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we'll talk with wayne lapierre, head of the nra in a moment. but, first, mark kelly, retired astronaut, navy captain and husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords who was shot two years ago. he and his wife launched a new group, "americans for responsible solutions." captain, let's start with your wife's dramatic testimony before a senate committee this week. >> you must act. be bold. be courageous, americans are counting on you. >> chris: how is gabby doing? >> she's doing great, chris. you know, she enjoyed being there. in front of the senate. it was a little bit of having her former job back, in a sense. being on capitol hill. >> chris: let's get to this debate. because your wife's shooting raises some of the questions at the core of the gun control controversy. jared loughner had been suspended from college because of concerns that he posed a danger to others and yet he was able to go to a store in tucson, pass the background check and buy the gun he used to shoot your wife. so, the question is, what good does it do to make more pe
we'll talk with wayne lapierre, head of the nra in a moment. but, first, mark kelly, retired astronaut, navy captain and husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords who was shot two years ago. he and his wife launched a new group, "americans for responsible solutions." captain, let's start with your wife's dramatic testimony before a senate committee this week. >> you must act. be bold. be courageous, americans are counting on you. >> chris: how is gabby doing?...
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. >>> following his ram belling laced op ed wayne lapierre offered america's wayne's world part two, giving a response to president obama's state of the union. >> it was only a few weeks ago when they were marketing their anti-gun agenda as a way of protecting schoolchildren from harm. that charade ended at the state of the union. when the president helms exposed their fraudulent intentions. it's not about keeping kids safe at school. that wasn't even mentioned in the president's speech. >> in the last hour the president honored a group of women who sacrificed their lives for the children of sandy hook elementary school. we will give mr. lapierre a reality check coming up next. hey, it's me, progressive insurance. you know, from our 4,000 television commercials. yep, there i am with flo. hoo-hoo! watch it! [chuckles] anyhoo, 3 million people switched to me last year, saving an average of $475. [sigh] it feels good to help people save... with great discounts like safe driver, multicar, and multipolicy. so call me today. you'll be glad you did. cannonbox! [splash!] [ whispering ] that'
. >>> following his ram belling laced op ed wayne lapierre offered america's wayne's world part two, giving a response to president obama's state of the union. >> it was only a few weeks ago when they were marketing their anti-gun agenda as a way of protecting schoolchildren from harm. that charade ended at the state of the union. when the president helms exposed their fraudulent intentions. it's not about keeping kids safe at school. that wasn't even mentioned in the president's...
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. >> reporter: that's wayne lapierre in 1999. he, of course, is basically the chief voice of the nra still today. he was on fox news sunday, this morning. he was indicating his opposition to universal background checks. obviously. it's not what he said in 1999. his fear is there would be a gun registry and the government would insert itself in what should be a private matter for individuals. >> that radical change of thought. you know the picture that jay carney tweeted, a lot of people were talking about it. >> reporter: there were a lot of people talking on it. if you go on social media, i'm sure you heard about the skeet shooting. we reached out to the nra after that photo was put out. one picture does not erase a lifetime of supporting every gun ban and every gun control scheme available. the white house would challenge that characterization of the president's policies on guns. he is a strong supporter of the second amendment. >> many thanks as always. >>> new on "meet the press," panetta gave his confirmation to chuck hagel.
. >> reporter: that's wayne lapierre in 1999. he, of course, is basically the chief voice of the nra still today. he was on fox news sunday, this morning. he was indicating his opposition to universal background checks. obviously. it's not what he said in 1999. his fear is there would be a gun registry and the government would insert itself in what should be a private matter for individuals. >> that radical change of thought. you know the picture that jay carney tweeted, a lot of...
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and wayne lapierre has a valentine's card for the american people. grab a gun because the end is near. isn't that romantic? >> wayne lapierre is expanding his argument now. >> background checks will never be universal because criminals will never submit to them. >> after hurricane sandy, we saw the hellish world. >> come out to play. >> looters ran wild in south brooklyn. really? >> and if you wanted to walk several miles to get supplies, you better get back before dark or you might not get home at all. >> this is so laced with racial overtones. the republican party, if they were smart, their leaders today with condemn it, but they're not smart. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. ♪ >>> a busy valentine's day, indeed, with the president traveling to georgia just as senate republicans back in washington threatened to derail and deny his nomination of chuck hagel. we're looking live at the senate where moments from now they're going to take a vote that's likely to delay the confirmation of a much-needed secreta
and wayne lapierre has a valentine's card for the american people. grab a gun because the end is near. isn't that romantic? >> wayne lapierre is expanding his argument now. >> background checks will never be universal because criminals will never submit to them. >> after hurricane sandy, we saw the hellish world. >> come out to play. >> looters ran wild in south brooklyn. really? >> and if you wanted to walk several miles to get supplies, you better get back...
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in a column published yesterday on a conservative web blog wayne lapierre from the nra announced a four-year communications and resistance movement, his words, to block what he calls a siege from the enemies of the second amendment. in washington to hear the president's appeal we'll be talking to mark kelly moments from now, but, first, to that breaking muse out of south africa rsh olympic sprinter oscar pistorius made sporting history by becoming the first track athlete double amputee to compete in the games, but today the blade runner as he is known, is charged with murder after his girlfriend was fatally shot in his home in pretoria, south africa. joining me -- for rock center. mary, this is -- this could not be more shocking. tell us what we know about the events and how this comports with what you know of this famed athlete. >> andrea, i'm heart sick over this, that this beautiful woman is gone and that oscar pistorius, he is one of the iconic figures in the london games this summer. a couple of months before this last summer's olympics, i was -- i got to spend almost a week with oscar
in a column published yesterday on a conservative web blog wayne lapierre from the nra announced a four-year communications and resistance movement, his words, to block what he calls a siege from the enemies of the second amendment. in washington to hear the president's appeal we'll be talking to mark kelly moments from now, but, first, to that breaking muse out of south africa rsh olympic sprinter oscar pistorius made sporting history by becoming the first track athlete double amputee to...
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>> wayne lapierre is representing his organization. whether he's trying to fold into his organization. >> long identified with the gop. >> there's a difference between the nra and the rnc. he's doing what he's paid to do and representing it. the nice thing the democrats are doing are lopping the two groups together so i do understand that he's long supported a lot of republican candidates and a lot of democrat candidates, too. >> sure. >> he's got a fight to fight, he's wrong on some issues and right on some issues but certainly he has led his organization in articulating what their message is. >> what does lapierre do for the republican party, chris kofinis? >> damage them. the only thing he didn't mention in the op-ed was the zombie apocalypse. at some point in all seriousness these are difficult issues. i worked for a senator who was an nra "a" rating member so i understand the difficulty especially if you come from a rural state there are different perspectives. my preference is we clearly have to honor and respect the second amend
>> wayne lapierre is representing his organization. whether he's trying to fold into his organization. >> long identified with the gop. >> there's a difference between the nra and the rnc. he's doing what he's paid to do and representing it. the nice thing the democrats are doing are lopping the two groups together so i do understand that he's long supported a lot of republican candidates and a lot of democrat candidates, too. >> sure. >> he's got a fight to fight,...
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. >> doesn't wayne lapierre have a point though? background checks cannot keep a criminalrom using a gun. >> under that theory, we have lost about murder. they are going to kill people anyway. wayne lapierre and the nra used to support universal background check 10 years ago or so. >> what happened? >> i do not understand it. they have become more unreasonable, i would say. i do not think we are going to get much of anything now. but this is not going away. >> nina is right. it is rather fascinating to watch the dynamic of t thehe nra, at this point. david cain the president, the white-haired man, is the good cop. longtime conservative leader. a longtime nra board member. he has actually come out for universal background checks. lapierre is the more strident, more bombasticic, take no prisoners. this is a losing fight for the nra. if we punish people fomaking false statements on mortgage applications that some bank will be hurt, when itit comes to gun that is even more serious. >> i think the background check will pass, over 90% app
. >> doesn't wayne lapierre have a point though? background checks cannot keep a criminalrom using a gun. >> under that theory, we have lost about murder. they are going to kill people anyway. wayne lapierre and the nra used to support universal background check 10 years ago or so. >> what happened? >> i do not understand it. they have become more unreasonable, i would say. i do not think we are going to get much of anything now. but this is not going away. >> nina...
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. >> wayne lapierre runs the nra. he's a fascinating and in my view a very dangerous character. he has done complete u-turns on background checks. he used to be in total favor of universal background checks. he was in favor of all schools being gun free. now he wants the opposite. everything is geared towards now with the nra and the leadership, not the membership, but the leadership toward the sale of guns and ammunition. >> and the recommendations are to keep the flow and sale of guns. 3 million guns are imported to the united states every year, 5 million guns that are manufactured here are sold. the nra is funded by the gun lobbyists. i say to smith & wesson, to remington, all the other gun manufacturers, what about putting a gps chip in those guns? you assume the responsibility and cost. i have proposed this to white house, to congress. put a gps chip in that gun. so the responsible gun owner whose house gets robbed by some little punk, and those guns are sold to the bad guys, you should be able to act vite it like i have an ipad, and if somebody steals my ipad, i can activa
. >> wayne lapierre runs the nra. he's a fascinating and in my view a very dangerous character. he has done complete u-turns on background checks. he used to be in total favor of universal background checks. he was in favor of all schools being gun free. now he wants the opposite. everything is geared towards now with the nra and the leadership, not the membership, but the leadership toward the sale of guns and ammunition. >> and the recommendations are to keep the flow and sale of...
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wayne lapierre of the national rifle association. you ever wonder why everything he says seems increasingly inflammatory? it's not that he is dumb. it's not that he doesn't know what is going to upset you when you listen to a speech or a sound bite from him. the national rifle association exists to bug you. the national rifle association exists to make you think of him, to make you pay attention to him and to the nra instead of to the industry that pays the nra to be their heat shield. nobody knows the names of the ceos of the manufacturing companies in this country that make guns. nobody knows who runs the various gun companies and the accessories companies who makes those extended magazines anyway. nobody knows who those guys are. but everybody knows who wayne lapierre is. he wants you to hate him. that's his job. and i think that wayne lapierre and the nra are not even in this to win elections, which is why they stay in business despite a winning record of 1%. wayne lapierre exist to make you think of anything other than the maker
wayne lapierre of the national rifle association. you ever wonder why everything he says seems increasingly inflammatory? it's not that he is dumb. it's not that he doesn't know what is going to upset you when you listen to a speech or a sound bite from him. the national rifle association exists to bug you. the national rifle association exists to make you think of him, to make you pay attention to him and to the nra instead of to the industry that pays the nra to be their heat shield. nobody...
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lapierre says. >> what's wrong with that? >> rose: nothing, i'm just making a point. that ice his principle part of his speech. >> the republican party today has got some problems, obviously. it's got to reach out -- and they're saying it. ey've got to chae. ericantor is saying it, marco rubio is saying it, paul ryan is saying it, governor jindal is saying it. the question is how do you think the republican party has to change? >> i'm not one of those who believes that our philosophy is somehow fundamentally flawed or that we need to be more like democrats. democrats love to tell us that if you guys would just be like us you'll win elections. well, i remember one of the low points of my career was on the morning after the '76 election jerry ford had lost his voice and i had to get on the telephone with the president and read the president's concession statement to jimmy carter. that hurt, i do not enjoy that moment. but it also it was beginning, if you will, of what became the reagan revolution in the sense that those four ye
lapierre says. >> what's wrong with that? >> rose: nothing, i'm just making a point. that ice his principle part of his speech. >> the republican party today has got some problems, obviously. it's got to reach out -- and they're saying it. ey've got to chae. ericantor is saying it, marco rubio is saying it, paul ryan is saying it, governor jindal is saying it. the question is how do you think the republican party has to change? >> i'm not one of those who believes that...
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your article details how wayne lapierre took the nra from a group that represented gun owners not one supported by and supportive of the gun industry. can you explain to the viewers the element of money that's in play here? >> well, the nra is a dark money group. it doesn't have to disclose its dono donors, but apparently it's good pr for a number of gun makers to be affiliated with the nra. that we know about that the nra has disclosed we know about millions. they have the golden ring of freedom and they have access to wayne lapierre and help shape policy. >> the yoshths has a wonderful piece on how a brilliant marketing campaign has made thea r-15 is best selling gun while slate recently estimated that assault rifles represent a half billion dollar industry. now, just to be clear, this isn't about children. this isn't about the second amendment for the nra. this is about corporate profits, isn't it? it's about making money for gun manufacturers. >> that's right. and i would commend tim's article to everyone. it's a superb piece. it's a very important piece. i think you put your fing
your article details how wayne lapierre took the nra from a group that represented gun owners not one supported by and supportive of the gun industry. can you explain to the viewers the element of money that's in play here? >> well, the nra is a dark money group. it doesn't have to disclose its dono donors, but apparently it's good pr for a number of gun makers to be affiliated with the nra. that we know about that the nra has disclosed we know about millions. they have the golden ring of...
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lapierre supporting a background check. here is a little bit of that ad. >> the nra once supported background checks. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. no loopholes anywhere for anyone. >> all right. i'll admit i need quick answers here. can a southern republican vote for the background check bill and get re-elected? >> a licensed dealer at a gun show already does a background check. that's already going on. what we're talking about is antique and special collectors and private sales. i think that's very difficult to legislate properly without killing gun show. >> there is a rural split almost more than anything else. urban politics are more supportive of this idea. >> yes. but i think both the southern republican and the urban republican should all be voting for universal background checks. look, connecticut was a game changer. we need to understand that. the gun issue is here. it's not going away. every other day, we are hearing about a tr
lapierre supporting a background check. here is a little bit of that ad. >> the nra once supported background checks. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. no loopholes anywhere for anyone. >> all right. i'll admit i need quick answers here. can a southern republican vote for the background check bill and get re-elected? >> a licensed dealer at a gun show already does a background check....
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because he has put out sensible solutions versus wayne lapierre and the nra and wayne lapierre rants that he put out in the "daily caller" yesterday, again focused on the fear that you just talked about, carol. talking about hispanic gangs going crazy. talking about those people in brooklyn after sandy. i mean, it was just a very racist rant that does not do any good for their position. and the reality of it is, carol, the positions -- the proposals that the president has put out are very sensible. there's a quinnipiac poll that came out yesterday that essentially said that 56% of americans, a majority, not a huge majority, but a majority, support bans on assault weapons on and on the high-capacity magazine clips. 92%, carol, support the universal background checks. >> but there's no chance of -- this community leader also says, you can talk about banning assault weapons all you want. but you have to get to the root of the problem. and the problem she says, isn't so much about guns, it's about the gun culture. and the culture of violence. >> i agree. >> especially on the main streets
because he has put out sensible solutions versus wayne lapierre and the nra and wayne lapierre rants that he put out in the "daily caller" yesterday, again focused on the fear that you just talked about, carol. talking about hispanic gangs going crazy. talking about those people in brooklyn after sandy. i mean, it was just a very racist rant that does not do any good for their position. and the reality of it is, carol, the positions -- the proposals that the president has put out are...